NFC experts talk about Isis, Google and Apple

I found a talk with three industry experts about the prospects for NFC payment, via phones or cards, in the US. I posted my notes below the image.  In general they all seemed to think that this time is different because of the mobile phone and believe the primary driver of consumer adoption will be the introduction of personalized marketing communications from brands.

In the interview:

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Patrick Gauthier, Drew Weinstein, Charles Walton

The Catalyst is Google
1 – NFC is disruptive, comes from developers not from traditional industry players
2 – consumers need a reason to use it which will be the combination of payment and marketing offers.

New phase with veteran CEO at Isis could be a number of valuable things in the market, Isis is a service provider to the carriers.

How will Google,  Apple and RIM impact mobile payment?

Charles Walton
The phone becomes the interaction point for consumers moving forward, also a personal device in the form of retail loyalty, all consumers have one and it will drive the future interaction which I call microadvertising.

Drew Weinstein
Yes the phone is going to help the argument with merchants, plus with all the cards are moving to NFC, Chase will 100% with their card portfolio and the other banks are following suite.  The market will be driven by the ability to bring the delight of the iPhone to payment and merchant services.

Is there a killer app?

Patrick Gauthier
The financial services industry wants to pay with cards but things are very different when you throw in the phone.  Back at VISA doing POS it was hard to have rich interactions.  To be able to run an app on top of NFC is going to be a game changer. The rate of click through on mobile marketing can sometime be 100% higher than in other interactive channels.  You can tell that the mobile user is different.
1) follow through of direct marketing
2) paying in the store, not at the check out counter

Charles Walton
The killer app is mobile retailing through microadvertising. The eyeballs looking at the phone during the transaction is powerful model for retail marketers.

Drew Weinstein
Its not just Google, the traditional card companies can now be surrounded by your merchant’s value added capabilities, (card guy having a hard time) using a list comparison shopping (ouch) its really about the app in the store plus the ads. You can understand why a bank would be interested in getting on the phone. (It was a choppy as it reads.)

What’s the advantage of NFC over barcodes?

Patrick Gauthier
Number of clicks – Red Laser very interesting but you still have to launch the app, NFC is just a touch.  Merry Mecker says we are in a period of users experiencing their devices through touch metaphors.

Is there an NFC system that points the way in the US?

Drew Weinstein
i think the us will lead the market, the players, framework of services, primed to lead market

What do you see for mobile payments this year and over the decade?

Charles Walton
1 Well more than 50m NFC enabled devices by end of year.
2 Significant dynamic from small companies with pull from big players in developing new applications and channeling new offers
3 There will be a community of consumers doing mobile transactions this year
10 years
Chip based payments will be fully saturated. There will be a major change of brand dominance with the emergence of new forms of retailer and smaller devices.

Drew Weinstein
I am equally bullish on the deployment of devices in a market that challenges existing supply chains. Going to be a lively combination of partnerships

Patrick Gauthier
Payment systems change every 20 years.  The first mobile payments in were in 1990.  There will be many changes in the ecosystem with the rise of a active merchant looking to more directly advertise to their customers  and actively managing payment and one on one marketing.  Merchants will be the focus of change.  There will be more devices and apps that will explode in the market. It will be like the web 10 years ago.

About Daniel Davenport

Daniel is a digital media executive with internet and broadcast experience. Daniel is currently the executive strategy director at THINK Interactive.

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